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这是我自用的旅鸟卡组,也是请求大佬们帮忙完善的。
主要疑点在主卡的3结界波和side。
这幅旅鸟后攻的手坑上手率一般,所以我选择了主卡加3结界波,总觉得怪怪的,也有考虑过3结界波换成灰流丽、锁鸟、陨石之类的手坑,但感觉也不太好:
换灰流丽:旅鸟不吃g,灰流丽防g功能无用;灰流丽单卡压制力有限,干扰作用不足。
换锁鸟:锁鸟针对面不够,现在我比较少见龙辉巧了。
换陨石:陨石吃旅鸟自肃,发动梦之町后不能用陨石,也就是陨石仅仅是后攻抽上手时可以用于打断展开,先攻上手会卡手。而且陨石可以被对面的操作规避。
使用结界波解场,如果对面是单一的站场怪兽防线,可以直接突破,但如果对面是前场+后场+手坑的立体防线,结界波作用有限。
或者直接放弃后攻局,把3结界波换成虚无空间、羽毛吹雪等先攻压制卡,在手牌事故或吃坑导致旅鸟无法正常展开时拖时间用。
我不知道该怎么权衡以上问题了,请大佬帮忙改卡组。</description>
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<p>玩旅鸟连续白给。<br>
最终我放弃玩鸟了,并加入乳鸟大军。<br>
辣鸡旅鸟,狗都不用。</p>
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<p>感谢大佬</p>
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或许可以为你提供一点建议 比较标准的40卡旅鸟</p>
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<p>旅鸟不配带衍生物收集者。。。<br>
我之前也想带的,但是壶翻上来就。。。。不如胜负</p>
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以及更新后的旅鸟卡组</p>
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<p>很有道理,我选择用灰流丽代替结界波。</p>
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<p>感谢你的建议。<br>
浮幽樱我的实际使用体验还不错,会继续留着。<br>
我在side里没有加颉颃胜负和宇宙旋风,因为一般打旅鸟换side会换入af圣枪,吃个圣枪就用不出来。<br>
重启确实没用过,我已经去掉了。<br>
以及你的side第一张是什么卡?</p>
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<p>40卡组主卡去灰流丽属于自降强度,灰流丽本身就是一换一的卡,很多卡组吃灰直接停牌,为什么不带?<br>
主卡下3结界波是一个概率学问题,后攻概率50%,6张牌上手率39%,先攻5张牌概率34%,<br>
换言之你为了50%概率的后攻,也只有39%概率抽到他,但代价是topdeck的削弱和先攻的34%概率手牌-1。</p>
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<p><div class="lightbox-wrapper"><a class="lightbox" href="https://cdntx.moecube.com/ygobbs/original/3X/1/1/1146cc8b464c727f75a0f845712893130f169469.jpeg" data-download-href="/uploads/short-url/2sPNNkxBKqddCJwIv9Ag5wwZo6Z.jpeg?dl=1" title="Screenshot_20211117_084241" rel="noopener nofollow ugc"><img src="https://cdntx.moecube.com/ygobbs/optimized/3X/1/1/1146cc8b464c727f75a0f845712893130f169469_2_700x1082.jpeg" alt="Screenshot_20211117_084241" data-base62-sha1="2sPNNkxBKqddCJwIv9Ag5wwZo6Z" width="700" height="1082" srcset="https://cdntx.moecube.com/ygobbs/optimized/3X/1/1/1146cc8b464c727f75a0f845712893130f169469_2_700x1082.jpeg, https://cdntx.moecube.com/ygobbs/original/3X/1/1/1146cc8b464c727f75a0f845712893130f169469.jpeg 1.5x, https://cdntx.moecube.com/ygobbs/original/3X/1/1/1146cc8b464c727f75a0f845712893130f169469.jpeg 2x, https://cdntx.moecube.com/ygobbs/original/3X/1/1/1146cc8b464c727f75a0f845712893130f169469.jpeg 3x" data-small-upload="https://cdntx.moecube.com/ygobbs/optimized/3X/1/1/1146cc8b464c727f75a0f845712893130f169469_2_10x10.png"><div class="meta"><svg class="fa d-icon d-icon-far-image svg-icon" aria-hidden="true"><use xlink:href="#far-image"></use></svg><span class="filename">Screenshot_20211117_084241</span><span class="informations">800×1237 353 KB</span><svg class="fa d-icon d-icon-discourse-expand svg-icon" aria-hidden="true"><use xlink:href="#discourse-expand"></use></svg></div></a></div> 我的卡组是这样的,有一点,浮幽樱的效果其实没有你想象的那么好,现在大部分卡组最不能接受的手坑就是大宇宙人和增g,而旅鸟不吃g,其实旅鸟的后攻突破不差,side局其实很容易抽到结界波和颉颃胜负,其实可以考虑在side中投入羽毛吹雪加蛊惑谋陷,除了黄金国,吃了这张卡就是必须停一回合,所以旅鸟先攻side局打绝大多数卡组大优<br>
还有一点,旅鸟的后场清理能力和回杀能力不强,重启很多时候作用不大<br>
以及,猜拳输了无法突破的时候,可以直接投降进入g2对方在未知卡组的情况下不会把g换出去,这时候,side局就是大优</p>
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这是我自用的旅鸟卡组,也是请求大佬们帮忙完善的。<br>
主要疑点在主卡的3结界波和side。</p>
<p>这幅旅鸟后攻的手坑上手率一般,所以我选择了主卡加3结界波,总觉得怪怪的,也有考虑过3结界波换成灰流丽、锁鸟、陨石之类的手坑,但感觉也不太好:</p>
<p>换灰流丽:旅鸟不吃g,灰流丽防g功能无用;灰流丽单卡压制力有限,干扰作用不足。<br>
换锁鸟:锁鸟针对面不够,现在我比较少见龙辉巧了。<br>
换陨石:陨石吃旅鸟自肃,发动梦之町后不能用陨石,也就是陨石仅仅是后攻抽上手时可以用于打断展开,先攻上手会卡手。而且陨石可以被对面的操作规避。<br>
使用结界波解场,如果对面是单一的站场怪兽防线,可以直接突破,但如果对面是前场+后场+手坑的立体防线,结界波作用有限。</p>
<p>或者直接放弃后攻局,把3结界波换成虚无空间、羽毛吹雪等先攻压制卡,在手牌事故或吃坑导致旅鸟无法正常展开时拖时间用。</p>
<p>我不知道该怎么权衡以上问题了,请大佬帮忙改卡组。</p>
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