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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 14:27:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">ygobbs2.com-post-332963-7</guid> <source url="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9C%80%E8%BF%91%E7%8E%AF%E5%A2%83%E4%B8%AD%E6%89%8B%E5%9D%91%E6%8A%95%E5%85%A5%E7%9A%84%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E3%80%82%E6%9C%9B%E5%A4%A7%E4%BD%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%A7%A3%E7%AD%94/332963.rss">关于最近环境中手坑投入的问题。望大佬们解答</source> </item> <item> <title>关于最近环境中手坑投入的问题。望大佬们解答</title> <dc:creator><![CDATA[1135117]]></dc:creator> <description><![CDATA[ <p>1、“但手坑过多会不会挤占启动卡位(降低上手启动卡的概率)?”<br> 当然会,手坑属于后手利,肯定会减少启动卡上手率。<br> 2、“如何避免或减轻该问题?”<br> 如果你觉得自己卡手率很高,这未必是你手坑多的问题,几场打下来的感觉不准,你可以罗列理想的启动牌型,计算概率。一般来说,不是纯展开卡组,都能容忍上手一两张手坑的,而且手坑上手多,未必是坏事,你可以靠手坑转而和对面beat,比如我一局三G上手,没法动,但靠G封了对手三回合。只要卡组是ok的,打多了胜率就会趋近理想值。<br> 3、“40-42构筑的卡组投入多少手坑是合理的?”<br> 10~14,这不是固定的。每个卡组所能投入的手坑都要自己去考虑,我的系统优秀,各种单卡展开,先攻不愁,带多张手坑兼顾后手是可以的。我的系统需要多卡启动,先攻也有问题,肯定要减少,不带都可以。<br> 4、总结一下,手坑投入多少每个卡组都不一样,就是手坑兼容性的问题。类似龙辉巧这类展开卡组,需要多卡展开,与其贪图后手打断,不如先手突破,强化先手。而beat型先手不算致命,但稳定赚卡,能容纳更多手坑。</p> <p><a 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<p>t2红坑t3解场也是一种思路嘛,其实真的三灰三g三遮三泡影完全没法打一些不吃无效的卡组比如调皮黄金国,真要带足手坑肯定要考虑到手坑联防携带陨石屋敷,怎么说呢,手坑带的越多打红坑beat越难打但是对展爆有压制力,就比如你手上两遮加灰,那跟我四羊出刺刀加机巧蛇斩杀有什么关系,或者说举个最极端的例子:开了协议的骚灵。<br> 你真的要说手坑均卡是最强思路我肯定是不同意的,游戏王本来就是展、红坑beat、手坑均卡三家互相克制互相制衡</p> <p><a href="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9C%80%E8%BF%91%E7%8E%AF%E5%A2%83%E4%B8%AD%E6%89%8B%E5%9D%91%E6%8A%95%E5%85%A5%E7%9A%84%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E3%80%82%E6%9C%9B%E5%A4%A7%E4%BD%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%A7%A3%E7%AD%94/332963/4">阅读整个主题</a></p> ]]></description> <link>https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9C%80%E8%BF%91%E7%8E%AF%E5%A2%83%E4%B8%AD%E6%89%8B%E5%9D%91%E6%8A%95%E5%85%A5%E7%9A%84%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E3%80%82%E6%9C%9B%E5%A4%A7%E4%BD%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%A7%A3%E7%AD%94/332963/4</link> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 04:32:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">ygobbs2.com-post-332963-4</guid> <source url="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9C%80%E8%BF%91%E7%8E%AF%E5%A2%83%E4%B8%AD%E6%89%8B%E5%9D%91%E6%8A%95%E5%85%A5%E7%9A%84%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E3%80%82%E6%9C%9B%E5%A4%A7%E4%BD%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%A7%A3%E7%AD%94/332963.rss">关于最近环境中手坑投入的问题。望大佬们解答</source> </item> <item> <title>关于最近环境中手坑投入的问题。望大佬们解答</title> <dc:creator><![CDATA[1133017]]></dc:creator> <description><![CDATA[ <p>能容纳的范围内手坑越多越好。<br> 换言之不是你想投入多少的问题,而是能投入多少的问题。<br> 现环境绝大部分主流被手坑阻拦后都是亏1卡的,你后攻多一手,凭啥怕跟对面交换资源?<br> 蔷薇天威出鲜花也是2卡尝试水机+鲜花护航,你一泡一丝袜也是2卡尝试打停,对面3蔷薇+4~6天威,你3灰3G3丝袜3泡影,拼胡正常运气就拦停了。</p> <p>而且手坑的资源转化除非复数上手,转化率接近100%,红坑不带勾转化率可能都不到30%,进side迫于颉颃电爆羽毛扫的压力甚至完全不想带,至于勾子的转化率也就40~50%那样,进side还好一点,但后手依然没用。<br> 现环境手坑均卡就是最强的组牌思路没有之一。当然可能这个思路用在海晶上远远比闪刀要强…</p> <p><a href="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9C%80%E8%BF%91%E7%8E%AF%E5%A2%83%E4%B8%AD%E6%89%8B%E5%9D%91%E6%8A%95%E5%85%A5%E7%9A%84%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E3%80%82%E6%9C%9B%E5%A4%A7%E4%BD%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%A7%A3%E7%AD%94/332963/3">阅读整个主题</a></p> ]]></description> 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<p>1月表后,决斗者的手指头又少一根,手坑的通过率上升。<br> 昨天打了一下午,遇到了许多闪刀姬<br> 基本上我先攻会吃2-3康,被手坑拦停。<br> 在询问对手后,闪刀姬卡组的手坑投入在基本12-15张之间。<br> 手康拦停后借助连刀,吸毒壶补资源。<br> 跟闪刀硬拖是打不赢闪刀的。</p> <p>以上,闪刀只是一个例子,目前在贴吧,b站的大佬们发出的构筑,手坑也在10-14左右。<br> 但手坑过多会不会挤占启动卡位(降低上手启动卡的概率)?<br> 在投入12手坑后,笔者在打牌时经常上手许多手坑,但也就是一回合的风光,不像闪刀那样能及时抽卡补资源。(笔者一般玩烙印,烙印龙仆,自奏,兽带勇者,幻龙勇者均)<br> 如何避免或减轻该问题?<br> 40-42构筑的卡组投入多少手坑是合理的?<br> 希望大佬解答</p> <p><a href="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9C%80%E8%BF%91%E7%8E%AF%E5%A2%83%E4%B8%AD%E6%89%8B%E5%9D%91%E6%8A%95%E5%85%A5%E7%9A%84%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E3%80%82%E6%9C%9B%E5%A4%A7%E4%BD%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%A7%A3%E7%AD%94/332963/1">阅读整个主题</a></p> ]]></description> <link>https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E6%9C%80%E8%BF%91%E7%8E%AF%E5%A2%83%E4%B8%AD%E6%89%8B%E5%9D%91%E6%8A%95%E5%85%A5%E7%9A%84%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E3%80%82%E6%9C%9B%E5%A4%A7%E4%BD%AC%E4%BB%AC%E8%A7%A3%E7%AD%94/332963/1</link> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 01:47:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">ygobbs2.com-post-332963-1</guid> <source 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