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    <description>&lt;h1&gt;惊了!龙神阵炸手牌的卡,手牌的卡转移到场上竟然还能炸了检索&lt;h1&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;/uploads/default/original/3X/f/3/f3264b7b8af58f8a2a6082059c23693c090de543.png&quot; width=&quot;601&quot; height=&quot;431&quot;&gt;这里先引用一下网上找的资料,龙神阵炸卡不娶对象,所以判定的时候二速连锁之后才“取对象炸卡”,于是有了以下操作&lt;hr&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/uploads/default/original/3X/d/e/de50411ebe3077c7216bb7ed00a706731ab8afef.png&quot; width=&quot;382&quot; height=&quot;494&quot;&gt;敌方龙神阵发效果我方剑皇炸对面铁拳,龙神阵这时才选定对象逼迫对面炸手牌&lt;hr&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/uploads/default/original/3X/d/4/d43238ae4bbc6a1fcfc4dcba82b54626b89de847.png&quot; width=&quot;439&quot; height=&quot;487&quot;&gt;所以对面有二速炸卡的卡的时候,龙神阵要慎用23333但是,龙神阵有另一种玩法,&lt;hr&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/uploads/default/original/3X/e/d/ed275756a97e84c9975c21445a3e8eeffe6d8562.png&quot; width=&quot;597&quot; height=&quot;425&quot;&gt;敌方龙神阵发效再连锁手排的风&lt;hr&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/uploads/default/original/3X/6/9/69157b240dafeb3b208530e92a2e56abccf3adcc.png&quot; width=&quot;551&quot; height=&quot;423&quot;&gt;于是可以做到g1龙神阵g2风,风起效龙神阵成功连锁上风炸卡检索,龙神阵炸手牌风风发效果到场上还能检索???喵喵喵??、一速连锁两速准3速???炸卡combo???&lt;hr&gt;于是我请教了一下群里的大佬&lt;img src=&quot;/uploads/default/original/3X/4/9/49c470b4c884f997e94a45750520192fac4e7d44.png&quot; width=&quot;341&quot; height=&quot;485&quot;&gt;貌似不是bug - -龙神阵炸的卡从手牌转移到了场上任然能炸拿卡!!&lt;hr&gt;等等!!!那么之前我剑皇炸铁拳岂不是可以连锁手牌的烈旋龙神阵炸烈旋检索直接解掉剑皇QAQ&lt;hr&gt;炼装:龙神阵你这样做没老婆的!!&lt;hr&gt;
龙神阵:谁告诉你我娶对象了?&lt;hr&gt;&lt;hr&gt;插播一条广告&lt;hr&gt;战队名:“我放学又被打了战队”(简称Oo)
啥,放学又被打了?大丈夫,大家一起陪你挨打......(被拍飞)
介绍:队内文明和谐(吐槽什么的还是有的,十分欢乐),有热爱duel的小伙伴,专业口胡30年的银河,各种有强度的上位以及各种fun player......
看到这霸气的战队名你难道不心动吗?
要求:1尊重他人
2热爱决斗
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4实力不是关键,关键是打的欢乐
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            <p>如果认为手卡中的跑到场上仍然算同一个目标的话才会产生现在的行为   这些就依赖于具体实现了  也不算问题</p>
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            <p>其实这种不取对象的卡的正确流程是  先声明要发动这张卡  然后连锁  然后第一张卡再指定目标  但是现在程序写成直接指定目标了  这样去处理的话按理说目标离开要重新选择才对</p>
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            <p>不过和养龙combo太像了- -这个可以那个不行了</p>
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            <p>不还是炸存在于手牌场地的卡么</p>
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            <p>其实你说的破坏龙的类似例子我这里也有举,龙神阵拿卡我连锁剑皇炸铁拳[quote=“suka, post:1, topic:83284”]<br>
敌方龙神阵发效果我方剑皇炸对面铁拳,龙神阵这时才选定对象逼迫对面炸手牌所以对面有二速炸卡的卡的时候,龙神阵要慎用23333<br>
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<p>,不过,对面因为不确定可以连锁烈旋,再让龙神阵炸烈旋,怕使用了烈旋之后龙神阵直接只能选定剑皇,渣操了,主要原因还是之前有个养龙combo和这个combo非常类似,很多人知道龙神阵可以炸两速卡赚卡但是不知道手牌发动的两速卡也能炸到(包括我),所以我才单独提出手牌的风和龙神阵的例子,通常二速风都会盖上赚骗对面风赚卡,然而如果可以这样用的话二速风不用盖上也可以用龙神阵稳定赚卡,所以单独提出这种使用方式我觉得也是挺有意义的</p>
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            <p>咳咳见过招财猫王么</p>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2017 15:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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        <source url="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E4%B8%80%E9%80%9F%E8%BF%9E%E9%94%81%E4%B8%A4%E9%80%9F%E5%88%B0%E5%BA%95%E6%98%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E6%B3%AF%E7%81%AD%E8%BF%98%E6%98%AF%E9%81%93%E5%BE%B7%E7%9A%84%E6%B2%A6%E4%B8%A7%EF%BC%9F%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%BE%99%E7%A5%9E%E9%98%B5%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA/83284.rss">一速连锁两速到底是人性的泯灭还是道德的沦丧?关于龙神阵的讨论</source>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[守矢青蛙子]]></dc:creator>
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            <p>这百度新闻式的标题:hj:</p>
          <p><a href="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E4%B8%80%E9%80%9F%E8%BF%9E%E9%94%81%E4%B8%A4%E9%80%9F%E5%88%B0%E5%BA%95%E6%98%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E6%B3%AF%E7%81%AD%E8%BF%98%E6%98%AF%E9%81%93%E5%BE%B7%E7%9A%84%E6%B2%A6%E4%B8%A7%EF%BC%9F%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%BE%99%E7%A5%9E%E9%98%B5%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA/83284/9">阅读整个主题</a></p>
        ]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2017 11:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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        <source url="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E4%B8%80%E9%80%9F%E8%BF%9E%E9%94%81%E4%B8%A4%E9%80%9F%E5%88%B0%E5%BA%95%E6%98%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E6%B3%AF%E7%81%AD%E8%BF%98%E6%98%AF%E9%81%93%E5%BE%B7%E7%9A%84%E6%B2%A6%E4%B8%A7%EF%BC%9F%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%BE%99%E7%A5%9E%E9%98%B5%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA/83284.rss">一速连锁两速到底是人性的泯灭还是道德的沦丧?关于龙神阵的讨论</source>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[_de18]]></dc:creator>
        <description><![CDATA[
            <p>龙神阵根本没取对象,何来的效果对象转移场所还能不丢失对象?我列举的例子是利用2速连锁达到不浪费卡的例子,强调的是卡片发动后直到效果处理完毕才将卡片送墓,不要搞混逻辑关系,并不是什么离场失去对象,像龙神阵炸裂旋一样赚卡。魔术师的例子我举的不好,其实应该单独放出来论证那句[quote=“忧郁的秋刀鱼, post:2, topic:83284”]<br>
除非连锁中有将卡片送墓效果<br>
[/quote]</p>
<p>不取对象效果,因为效果涉及范围缩小导致只能选择某一特定对象甚至失效。这种情况在不取对象效果处理中很正常的,虽然不常见那是因为不取对象的效果本来不太多,硬要举例也行:C1破坏剑的摇篮C2转生的预言,由于转生的预言将墓地的蛮龙送走,所以破坏剑的摇篮只能特招额外的蛮龙,C1摇篮C2浮幽樱道理一样。</p>
          <p><a href="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E4%B8%80%E9%80%9F%E8%BF%9E%E9%94%81%E4%B8%A4%E9%80%9F%E5%88%B0%E5%BA%95%E6%98%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E6%B3%AF%E7%81%AD%E8%BF%98%E6%98%AF%E9%81%93%E5%BE%B7%E7%9A%84%E6%B2%A6%E4%B8%A7%EF%BC%9F%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%BE%99%E7%A5%9E%E9%98%B5%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA/83284/8">阅读整个主题</a></p>
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        <source url="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E4%B8%80%E9%80%9F%E8%BF%9E%E9%94%81%E4%B8%A4%E9%80%9F%E5%88%B0%E5%BA%95%E6%98%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E6%B3%AF%E7%81%AD%E8%BF%98%E6%98%AF%E9%81%93%E5%BE%B7%E7%9A%84%E6%B2%A6%E4%B8%A7%EF%BC%9F%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%BE%99%E7%A5%9E%E9%98%B5%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA/83284.rss">一速连锁两速到底是人性的泯灭还是道德的沦丧?关于龙神阵的讨论</source>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[suka]]></dc:creator>
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            <p>以前我经常拿风破咒血所以觉得这个挺不可思议的但是我仔细想想还是给出了解释(强行)</p>
          <p><a href="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E4%B8%80%E9%80%9F%E8%BF%9E%E9%94%81%E4%B8%A4%E9%80%9F%E5%88%B0%E5%BA%95%E6%98%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E6%B3%AF%E7%81%AD%E8%BF%98%E6%98%AF%E9%81%93%E5%BE%B7%E7%9A%84%E6%B2%A6%E4%B8%A7%EF%BC%9F%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%BE%99%E7%A5%9E%E9%98%B5%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA/83284/7">阅读整个主题</a></p>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2017 15:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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        <source url="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E4%B8%80%E9%80%9F%E8%BF%9E%E9%94%81%E4%B8%A4%E9%80%9F%E5%88%B0%E5%BA%95%E6%98%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E6%B3%AF%E7%81%AD%E8%BF%98%E6%98%AF%E9%81%93%E5%BE%B7%E7%9A%84%E6%B2%A6%E4%B8%A7%EF%BC%9F%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%BE%99%E7%A5%9E%E9%98%B5%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA/83284.rss">一速连锁两速到底是人性的泯灭还是道德的沦丧?关于龙神阵的讨论</source>
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        <title>一速连锁两速到底是人性的泯灭还是道德的沦丧?关于龙神阵的讨论</title>
        <dc:creator><![CDATA[suka]]></dc:creator>
        <description><![CDATA[
            <p>不得不提到养龙combo了c1贤士c2灵龙,由于灵龙转移了场所所以贤士丢失了对象,而这里我想说的重点是2速风转移了场所还能被真龙阵炸,所以看起来像真龙阵连锁风一样,你说的火鸡的combo根本没有离场,魔术师的combo是还不是因为转移场所对象丢失,我说的这个一速炸2速卡2速卡转移场所还能不丢失对象我的确第一次见到这种例子,所以才发的帖,你说的真龙阵炸烈旋,炸风之类的我经常干,但是都是先盖上一回合的。 你能找到这种单体炸卡转移场地还被炸的例子吗?</p>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2017 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[suka]]></dc:creator>
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            <p>我这里只是举个例子而已- -炼装还是用过的但是炼装不能这样任性的炸卡而已</p>
          <p><a href="https://ygobbs2.com/t/%E4%B8%80%E9%80%9F%E8%BF%9E%E9%94%81%E4%B8%A4%E9%80%9F%E5%88%B0%E5%BA%95%E6%98%AF%E4%BA%BA%E6%80%A7%E7%9A%84%E6%B3%AF%E7%81%AD%E8%BF%98%E6%98%AF%E9%81%93%E5%BE%B7%E7%9A%84%E6%B2%A6%E4%B8%A7%EF%BC%9F%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%BE%99%E7%A5%9E%E9%98%B5%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA/83284/4">阅读整个主题</a></p>
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            <p>:<em>reimu</em>:  不客气地评论一下,楼上说了这么多,我还可以再精简一下</p>
<p><span class="hashtag">#一言蔽之</span>:炼装用过没?##</p>
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        <title>一速连锁两速到底是人性的泯灭还是道德的沦丧?关于龙神阵的讨论</title>
        <dc:creator><![CDATA[_de18]]></dc:creator>
        <description><![CDATA[
            <p>不客气地评论一下。说了一大堆,貌似图文并茂有理有据,但是没什么结论,感觉看了一堆废话和口胡。<br>
龙神阵.略图,炸卡不取对象,一速效果。这个有什么大惊小怪?<br>
一速连锁两速准3速??这话赤裸裸口胡,明明是二速连锁了一速的龙神阵,你却还得出准3速这种突破天际的结论。<br>
关于炸卡的小技巧,只能说你见得太少和对规则没有明确的了解。<br>
游戏王卡片效果咒文速度有3种,高级别【姑且用级别来区分】的咒文速度能连锁低级别的或者同级别,确定连锁完结后,逆向开始处理效果,处理完效果后再将卡片送墓,除非连锁中有将卡片送墓效果。举几个妙用的例子<br>
1.狱火机:场上2狂宴1死徒,可以C1死徒  C2狂宴A cost死徒   C3狂宴B cost狂宴A,这样就毫无浪费使用了3张卡效果。<br>
2.魔术师:C1时空灵摆读阵点慧眼,C2连成的振动炸慧眼,连锁完毕。先处理C2振动炸掉慧眼抽1卡,C1时空灵摆读阵,由于灵摆区的慧眼已经送去额外,时空灵摆读阵没有能把慧眼破坏,这时候还是能炸掉对面一张卡并多送对面一张卡送墓。<br>
3.龙神阵炸裂旋,很常见没毛病.</p>
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            <h1>惊了!龙神阵炸手牌的卡,手牌的卡转移到场上竟然还能炸了检索</h1><h1>
</h1><p><img src="/uploads/default/original/3X/f/3/f3264b7b8af58f8a2a6082059c23693c090de543.png" width="601" height="431">这里先引用一下网上找的资料,龙神阵炸卡不娶对象,所以判定的时候二速连锁之后才“取对象炸卡”,于是有了以下操作</p><hr><img src="/uploads/default/original/3X/d/e/de50411ebe3077c7216bb7ed00a706731ab8afef.png" width="382" height="494">敌方龙神阵发效果我方剑皇炸对面铁拳,龙神阵这时才选定对象逼迫对面炸手牌<hr><img src="/uploads/default/original/3X/d/4/d43238ae4bbc6a1fcfc4dcba82b54626b89de847.png" width="439" height="487">所以对面有二速炸卡的卡的时候,龙神阵要慎用23333但是,龙神阵有另一种玩法,<hr><img src="/uploads/default/original/3X/e/d/ed275756a97e84c9975c21445a3e8eeffe6d8562.png" width="597" height="425">敌方龙神阵发效再连锁手排的风<hr><img src="/uploads/default/original/3X/6/9/69157b240dafeb3b208530e92a2e56abccf3adcc.png" width="551" height="423">于是可以做到g1龙神阵g2风,风起效龙神阵成功连锁上风炸卡检索,龙神阵炸手牌风风发效果到场上还能检索???喵喵喵??、一速连锁两速准3速???炸卡combo???<hr>于是我请教了一下群里的大佬<img src="/uploads/default/original/3X/4/9/49c470b4c884f997e94a45750520192fac4e7d44.png" width="341" height="485">貌似不是bug - -龙神阵炸的卡从手牌转移到了场上任然能炸拿卡!!<hr>等等!!!那么之前我剑皇炸铁拳岂不是可以连锁手牌的烈旋龙神阵炸烈旋检索直接解掉剑皇QAQ<hr>炼装:龙神阵你这样做没老婆的!!<hr><p></p>
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